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		<title>By: hugo</title>
		<link>http://designforconversion.nl/2009/12/05/evidence-based-marketing-101/comment-page-1/#comment-113</link>
		<dc:creator>hugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 15:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Greald,

I must say i do agree with your critics here. I got a bit carried away when floating on the waves... so now this 101 turned out more into a future vision on were it potentially could go from evidence based marketing past next best action marketing into survival marketing. Not really a 101 eh?

Indeed the basis is in the emperical appraoch to marketing, driven by rigorous test en set up testable experiments.

If you want more background as to how to setup marketing campaigns and predictive model performance tests I would like to point you towards the lean &amp; Six Sigma project methodologies that imho are very must up to this job. We only need to convince marketing people here... ;-)

In Six Sigma there is a lot of emphasis in proper design of experiment and the short cyclic DMAIC cycle(see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Sigma#DMAIC ) really is fit for purpose if you want to evaluate marketing campaigns or test different interaction strategies. 

Also a very under estimated ascept of (db) marketing is dataquality, which is key to target precision in segmenting and predictive modelling. There is much low hanging friut there.

Hope this brings you more back to the ground for your day2day struggle with data, and gives you some handles to improve your conversion?

Regards and thank you for this comment,

Hugo Koopmans [ASQ Certified Six Sigma Blackbelt]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Greald,</p>
<p>I must say i do agree with your critics here. I got a bit carried away when floating on the waves&#8230; so now this 101 turned out more into a future vision on were it potentially could go from evidence based marketing past next best action marketing into survival marketing. Not really a 101 eh?</p>
<p>Indeed the basis is in the emperical appraoch to marketing, driven by rigorous test en set up testable experiments.</p>
<p>If you want more background as to how to setup marketing campaigns and predictive model performance tests I would like to point you towards the lean &amp; Six Sigma project methodologies that imho are very must up to this job. We only need to convince marketing people here&#8230; <img src='http://designforconversion.nl/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In Six Sigma there is a lot of emphasis in proper design of experiment and the short cyclic DMAIC cycle(see: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Sigma#DMAIC" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Sigma#DMAIC</a> ) really is fit for purpose if you want to evaluate marketing campaigns or test different interaction strategies. </p>
<p>Also a very under estimated ascept of (db) marketing is dataquality, which is key to target precision in segmenting and predictive modelling. There is much low hanging friut there.</p>
<p>Hope this brings you more back to the ground for your day2day struggle with data, and gives you some handles to improve your conversion?</p>
<p>Regards and thank you for this comment,</p>
<p>Hugo Koopmans [ASQ Certified Six Sigma Blackbelt]</p>
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		<title>By: Greald</title>
		<link>http://designforconversion.nl/2009/12/05/evidence-based-marketing-101/comment-page-1/#comment-106</link>
		<dc:creator>Greald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the term &#039;evidence based marketing&#039;  used here suggests a refreshing approach that will separate effective practices from bogus ones, once and for all. So I expected a set of steps to take to subject them to empirical tests, and empirical tests alone. For instance how to define some desired effects for marketing efforts and metrics how to measure them in a standardised way. Or how to set up experimental and statistical tests to determine their occurrances as an outcome of applied practices. And above all, a reluctant use of assumptions or assertions.  
Much to my surprise I was taken away on waves of claims and summons like &#039;we need&#039;, &#039;the customer is&#039; etc. without a trace of empirical proof.
All of which, by the way, is quite appealing and inspirational, but where is the evidence base in it? Or is the term another inflated victim of marketeers&#039; misuse?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the term &#8216;evidence based marketing&#8217;  used here suggests a refreshing approach that will separate effective practices from bogus ones, once and for all. So I expected a set of steps to take to subject them to empirical tests, and empirical tests alone. For instance how to define some desired effects for marketing efforts and metrics how to measure them in a standardised way. Or how to set up experimental and statistical tests to determine their occurrances as an outcome of applied practices. And above all, a reluctant use of assumptions or assertions.<br />
Much to my surprise I was taken away on waves of claims and summons like &#8216;we need&#8217;, &#8216;the customer is&#8217; etc. without a trace of empirical proof.<br />
All of which, by the way, is quite appealing and inspirational, but where is the evidence base in it? Or is the term another inflated victim of marketeers&#8217; misuse?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter van der Putten</title>
		<link>http://designforconversion.nl/2009/12/05/evidence-based-marketing-101/comment-page-1/#comment-92</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter van der Putten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 14:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hear hear!

Effective marketing will no longer be limited to today&#039;s definition of making sales offers but it will include managing and balancing customer experience, value to the customer and value to the company in real time.

The modern marketeer or marketing organisation needs to be a better job of using its left and right brain. The right brain may be used to come up with unique propositions, but the left brain - or evidence based marketing should be used to direct both the dynamic proposition targeting as well as the dynamic proposition configuration. 

Your &#039;Selfish Proposition&#039; concept, where each proposition is a meme is a refreshing example. In a way this predicts that evidence based marketing, the left brain of the marketing organisation, has a role to play in the proposition design &amp; development process as well, and that this is no longer a linear process (design first), but it happens very much &#039;in flight&#039; - within customer interactions.

For customers this means in the end more control and influence in the relationship - customer relationship management becomes company relationship management - and marketeers will have to accept that they are no longer the demi gods that rule the customer interaction start to finish - but in the end smart customers and smart companies will benefit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear hear!</p>
<p>Effective marketing will no longer be limited to today&#8217;s definition of making sales offers but it will include managing and balancing customer experience, value to the customer and value to the company in real time.</p>
<p>The modern marketeer or marketing organisation needs to be a better job of using its left and right brain. The right brain may be used to come up with unique propositions, but the left brain &#8211; or evidence based marketing should be used to direct both the dynamic proposition targeting as well as the dynamic proposition configuration. </p>
<p>Your &#8216;Selfish Proposition&#8217; concept, where each proposition is a meme is a refreshing example. In a way this predicts that evidence based marketing, the left brain of the marketing organisation, has a role to play in the proposition design &amp; development process as well, and that this is no longer a linear process (design first), but it happens very much &#8216;in flight&#8217; &#8211; within customer interactions.</p>
<p>For customers this means in the end more control and influence in the relationship &#8211; customer relationship management becomes company relationship management &#8211; and marketeers will have to accept that they are no longer the demi gods that rule the customer interaction start to finish &#8211; but in the end smart customers and smart companies will benefit.</p>
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		<dc:creator>The Design for Conversion way of thinking : Design for Conversion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 07:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] not least, scientific crusader of evolutionary gospel Richard Dawkins is seen as guru within the Evidence Based Marketing tribe. Read more about these approaches and our [...]</description>
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